Own Your Time Alison Ruddy
I’m joined this week by Alison Ruddy on Own Your Time.
In today’s episode I’m going to be chatting with Alison Ruddy.
Alison helps corporates, SMEs and individuals unlock peak performance & mental fitness for a more productive & enjoyable work-life life,
and she achieves this using her signature 4 pillar approach which combines coaching, NLP and science-backed methods combined with 16 years experience as an accountant in the corporate world.
Alison is also author of Power Pause - which is a five minute habit to transform your life - the habit she developed to break patterns of stress & anxiety and to find calm and to build new behaviours to transform your life.
It’s a great conversation with some helpful advice that you can take away and implement today.
Let’s get into it…
In this episode we cover:
Alison Ruddy with her book, Power Pause
Alison’s transition from a 16-year corporate accounting career to becoming a mental fitness coach.
Introduction to Alison’s Power Pause, a five-minute habit to combat stress and build calm.
Explanation of Alison’s four-pillar approach: Mind, Emotional Well-being, Productivity, and Relating to Others.
Insight into NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) and its impact on beliefs and productivity.
How emotional well-being and mindfulness can unlock creativity and improve sleep.
Alison’s journey of writing her book, Power Pause, and how early mornings helped her balance family and work.
The power of coaching in overcoming challenges, breaking habitual patterns, and achieving life goals.
Read the transcript:
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00:00 Welcome to Own Your Time, a podcast for small business owners. Get ready to harness your most precious asset, your time, with intention, enabling you to create a life that thrives in simplicity, ease and joy.
00:17 I'm your host, Sarah Stewart, Glasgow-based time management expert. My approach combines the wisdom of traditional time management strategies with the transformative power of mindfulness.
00:32 My commitment is to help you to get more time for the things that really matter. If you are ready to ditch the hustle culture and overwhelm and instead embrace peaceful productivity, you are in the right place.
00:47 So in today's episode, I'm going to be chatting with Alison Ruddy. Alison helps corporates, SMEs and individuals unlock peak performance and mental fitness for a more productive and enjoyable work life.
01:03 And she achieves this using her signature four-pillar approach, which combines coaching, NLP and science-backed methods, along with her 16 years experience as an accountant in the corporate world.
01:19 Alison's also the author of Power Pause, which is a five minute habit to transform your life and it's a habit that she developed to break patterns of stress and anxiety and to find calm and build new behaviours to transform her life.
01:35 So it's a great conversation with some helpful advice that you can take away and implement today. The time that this episode is going to air, it's the week before Christmas and so I'm anticipating that many of you might be feeling overwhelmed and stressed.
01:53 It's usually quite a busy time of year. So hopefully there's some advice here. Now as I say you can take away an implement today just to bring a little bit of peace and a pause ahead of the big day.
02:09 So let's get into it. Hey Alison, welcome. Thank you for having me. I am so excited to have you on your time.
02:21 I've obviously done a little intro to you, but I would love to hear in your own words, maybe a little bit about you and your business.
02:29 Sure, thanks, Sarah. So I transformed team and individual performance by unlocking mental fitness and productivity for peak performance. So I do that through a mixture of corporate training, one-to-one coaching and keynote speaking and achieve results through a mixture of science-based methods, NLP and
02:51 coaching. So the one thing there, I don't think in the podcast we've touched on NLP before, so I do wonder, maybe some of the listeners might not know what that is.
03:05 Do you want to maybe just tell us what NLP stands for and what it involves? Yeah, so NLP is Neural and Guestic Programming and it's all about the language patterns and programs overmind and it's really about how they impact the life that we live and a big part of that is you know, being able to use the
03:30 mind to the best of our ability and to access resourceful states and positive belief systems to help us achieve our most desired and best outcomes in life.
03:44 Amazing and again this might be a silly question but like with NLP you know coaching that's something that I do with clients on Zoom is NLP similar to that?
03:56 Is it something that you would do with clients online as well as in person? Yes, it's both online and in person, and I guess it's similar to coaching, so there is coaching techniques and what I do is I combine the coaching and the NLP, so with NLP there's a lot of fancy techniques that you can use such
04:21 as anchoring, etc. But there's also just, it's sometimes described as the technicality of coaching. It goes into detail all about these language patterns and beliefs that are going on in our mind and how they can limit us.
04:39 And I guess the difficulty that we all face is that we probably don't even realize some of the beliefs and language patterns that we have that are holding us back and perhaps making us feel negative in some way because we can have these beliefs since we're, you know, eight years old and be so used to
05:01 all these language patterns, you know, with 95% over thinking and behaviors, all estimated to be unconscious. We just run the same programs on rinse and repeat.
05:14 So it's like hard to notice because our brain can distort, delete and generalize anything that isn't fitting with our belief systems.
05:25 So yeah it's hard to drill down and it's often not until you actually say them out loud and perhaps have someone else, you know, gently challenge and drill into them a little that you can start to notice them.
05:39 Yeah, it's like I find it all so fascinating. I love anything sort of to do with the brain and the way that we think and stuff like that.
05:51 Now, I obviously know you. We don't live that far apart. So I know that this hasn't always been your career.
06:02 Do you want some of the explain a little bit about your, I guess, change in path and how that came about?
06:09 Yeah, sure. And so I guess like I combine all my methods with 16 years experience as a chartered accountant in the corporate world.
06:21 So, you know, I really get all the challenges of the workplace, I get how business works and the challenges. I'm also a mum of two young children.
06:38 So I drove me to this change was personally finding myself in a situation where I was just stressed, warned out, trying to just do it all and make it all work.
06:53 I guess I ignored probably how I felt, pushed myself and pushed myself until a point where I find myself saying there must be another way and forced myself into a situation where I've really had to make some drastic changes.
07:12 So I started getting up at half-life every morning to research myself out of the situation I was in. I started to research stress, how to deal with stress, and then how I could generate positive emotions and feel better again and develop this five minute habit of the back of my research which I just
07:36 started doing and I started to feel a lot better again and others around me started to come in, you know, on the difference and I hadn't really noticed it, I just kept doing it because I was feeling better and I guess that five minute habit is now power pose and that same habit then involved once I achieved
08:00 CAM to then really take stock and think, you know, what am I doing with my life here is this, you know, really the best path for me because honestly I felt like, you know, your podcast is all about time.
08:18 It really forced me to take stock on how I was spending my time and if it was making me feel good.
08:24 And the answer was, you know, we spend the majority of our time in our work, during our lifetime, and the impact of that wasn't feeling good, I probably wasn't the best person to myself, find my family and my children.
08:43 And I just thought, you know, what is it I actually really want? What is it I started to look for something else, something that was going to fulfill me?
08:51 And so I started to use paraphrase to figure out what that was and the answer was to help others with my journey and my story, the research I'd done, and I then began to use paraphrase to build the habit of taking action for what I wanted so I then went on to study coaching an NLP and then I then started
09:17 to use NLP myself and so that's how I started to get into it and then I went on to study it because I was just so fascinated with it.
09:28 The drastic impact made the quality of my life and you know it just really launched me up on other level to like really living the best version of my life.
09:39 So yeah so I'm just I'm just wanting to share my experience and help others with my journey love that yeah that's so powerful as well and I think with a lot you know a lot of people that end up probably in our line of work I reckon a lot of people it will be that they've been on some sort of journey
10:02 themselves and then they decide that they want to help others So you touched it on PowerPause, which is the name of your five-minute habit, and you wrote a book as well, which is called PowerPause.
10:19 Yeah, that's right. Do you want to tell us a bit about your book? Yeah, sure. So I guess what inspired me to really, the book is just the five-minute habit, really.
10:30 and a bit about the view search behind some of the techniques within it. But I guess what inspired me to write it was at the time I was searching for a book I kept downloading all these books in my Kindle and I was just looking for something that would tell me and comfort me that it's all okay.
10:51 There is another way and you can find it. It's normal to be going through what you're going through. like the challenges of trying to balance the corporate career with family life is something that's pretty difficult and pretty tricky to do, especially when your children are very young.
11:15 And I couldn't find anything that was what I was looking for, so I was then just inspired to write a book to help others that might be in a similar situation.
11:27 And it's really the key message I want to share is like stress, anxiety, they do not need to be the way.
11:36 There is another way we can build more helpful patterns and behaviors which serve us. My emotional home at the time was probably one of stress and anxiety.
11:49 With this habit, I made my emotional home a place of cam and it was then easier to realize when I then deviated from it and I was able to restore cam again so it's almost like downloading a new piece of computer software.
12:08 So yeah it was just really again just to get it all down at the time and just to really help others and show others, you know, there is another way in it doesn't have to be this way.
12:24 And I mean writing a book is no mean feat, like how, so when we think about like your time, how do Jews end fit that in?
12:37 Yeah, well I know I think I hadn't quite realized what I signed up for. when I said I was going to write a book to be honest because you know the type of writing I'd been doing was like board paper write-ups and accounting paper write-ups and so you know to then write a book I hadn't written in that
12:59 style of like kind of creative writing and it's a non-fiction book but I tell my story at the start and written like that since high in English so you know I wrote the book and I thought it was good, but then it then needed up-lifted multiple times and I had to keep going back and repracticing and rewriting
13:23 until I got it in a really good place. So it was a lot more work than I'd anticipated, you know, get in my book to a high standard, you know, that people would resonate with as well.
13:37 And practically, how did you fit that in there? Yeah, how did you like fit that in around your family and other things that you had going on?
13:47 Well, it was building the habit of getting up at half five every morning. That was the only way that I could fit it in, you know, with two young children.
13:58 It was just building that self-discipline to get up at half-five and even that in itself, I find particularly challenging. I don't know about you, but I'm someone that is probably my whole life struggled to get up in the mornings and especially in those like cold winter mornings when it's been work.
14:20 And I had to build the discipline and the habit to just get up on those mornings to write the book.
14:28 So, you know, I built a couple of things like visualisation the night before. Yeah. Off me getting up and what I was going to work on just spends in five minutes that night just closing my eyes and visualise and me getting up to do it.
14:45 And then also writing on a post, you know what I was going to do that morning because sometimes I you get up and it'd be so tired.
14:54 I'd be like, what bet was it going to work on? And it takes like five, ten minutes to get your brain in gear.
15:00 So like just having on a post, I know what was going to work on and visualise when we getting up and working on it.
15:06 Then I had like a checklist and I was visualising all the paragraphs going yellow. Like I would highlight them yellows and completed them and visualise in the checklist going yellow.
15:17 Like so some metrics and visualisation in there that I used. And in the morning, I think, you know, just when you're lying in bed, I would just count down and then go.
15:34 Yeah. So count down, then go. Then that's at non-negotiable. And as I had my dressing going, they're all ready to go.
15:45 And it, you know, it's like with any habit, it takes you know time for the habit to settle in and once you do it so many times, it just kind of becomes autopilot.
15:57 Still times when say the kids were sick and up during the night and we would go through a bit of a rough patch and the harder thing would just be getting back on track so that was a challenge but got through it.
16:11 Yeah I've never really like I've always I've always known that I'm most productive in the mornings, but even with that, I still struggle to get up in the morning and it has taken me a lot of time to get into that habit where I can get up early.
16:28 I do not get up at half past five, but it's like way too early for me. Well, I've stopped at half five, but this morning I did 10 to 6, that's a bit more civilized.
16:44 I'll maybe get back to the half-fives again. Maybe that's a reminder. Any tips for people then that would maybe want to write a book?
17:01 I'm asking it of curiosity because it's something that's in my mind that I would quite like to write a book.
17:07 Well, I would say just, you know, get started to have an outline of what it is you want to achieve and just make a start.
17:20 Like, I think, in hindsight, I would have probably had a better structure to begin with because the structure of halved as I went on with the books.
17:32 So I'd probably just have, you know, and I think I got, I got, you know, editing of the book done, but I would perhaps got a bit of help from a book coach earlier on.
17:44 Okay, just with the structure because I think that would have perhaps saved me a lot of time. You know, but then I guess with me, it was all part of a process because the writing required quite a lot of evolving.
17:58 But again, with someone externally reviewing it, you move on far quicker than just you reviewing yourself, because you've been your own working, you think, oh, that's really good.
18:09 And then, you know, you get external input and you're like, oh my god, yeah, eventually needs, you know, it's just helpful to get input as quickly as you can in external feedback.
18:20 back. Yeah. I think that's something that a lot of people maybe don't appreciate is the impact that a coach can have.
18:33 Yes. So, you know, that's a sort of talking from the perspective of writing a book, but there's obviously like coaches for all sorts of different things.
18:43 And, you know, my story, I had my first coach when I was 20, so I've always recognized how impactually can be but I think maybe for for some listeners or you know others that maybe haven't experienced coaching it is so powerful isn't it yes and I think I guidance that I use that I perhaps need external
19:11 help as if I'm at all feeling negative in any way. Our emotions are such powerful tools. They're almost guiding us and giving us a clue that something's not right.
19:26 So I would say really pay attention to your emotions and how you're feeling. The tricky part can then be, what is it that's not right?
19:36 what changes do I need to make and how to make them and that something is a coach I help to cut through pretty quickly and quite often there can be like a couple of things you know that are just driving those negative emotions and feeling negative and because and as you as you well know of say, like
20:01 sometimes we can end up stuck in that negative state. And you can almost see a way forward and that stuck state almost is just your habitual way of being.
20:15 So a coach can kind of help you cut through pretty quickly, like what is it? What's holding you back? Drill down into what it is and help you to find the right path forward for you and a path forward that's going to make you feel more positive, feeling good again, access and positive belief systems and
20:37 getting back to that feeling good and feeling that you're living the best version of your life. But like you know we're all human so we all have things that perhaps knock as a little or have things that can make us feel negative.
20:53 I think it's how quickly can we get back on track and that's something, you know, it was a coach I can help with and a coach can help you with.
21:02 Yeah, and what's interesting, like when I reflect on my journey, you know, it is the times that I've sort of then turned to coaching, have been when it's periods of transition.
21:15 And so, you know, my first coach was when my mum had died. I had another coach when my marriage fell apart.
21:24 I turned to coaching again when the COVID pandemic hit. So like it's always sort of been these transitions and it is so impactful.
21:33 And I guess also for the listeners, you know, when I was working with a coach when my marriage fell apart and you might not think it now, like with the version of me that you see now.
21:47 But I was in such a, like my confidence was shot And I really, you know, was not in a good place.
21:58 And like, I can vividly remember, like one of the actions being from my coach that she sort of, you know, encouraged me to go away and do was to speak to a stranger.
22:08 Oh my God. Like, you know, if she was like, have one interaction with a stranger, someone you don't know have a brief conversation.
22:16 And I did it and I can even remember the conversation. like my daughter was tiny and she was strapped to my chest and we were in a gift shop and we were queuing to pay for something and someone in the queue made a comment about my daughter and then we like struck up this little conversation so complete
22:35 stranger but now to me like that comes like second nature and I got that and so it's funny how then like at that point like my comfort zone was so tiny and now you know the more that you practice and I think I wrote a note earlier when you were speaking it's all around taking action that's the impactful
22:58 bit as well isn't it? It's all it's all as well thinking but it's the doing and yeah and like connecting with others is one way that we can you know feel better and generate positive emotions but as you say it's like you're thinking patterns of behaviors can be so habitual.
23:21 So it's then taking the leap to take the action and pushing through to do something that's a bit out of your comfort zone.
23:28 I see it like life is almost like we have these problems in these situations and how can we break out of the box, the problem box that we're in and move forward quickly and that involves taking action which is as you say sometimes doing things that are about your comfort zone and then as you say that's
23:51 probably just a bit show way of being and it probably feels pretty good right yeah and and so then you know you just then take those little steps and you know you and I as coaches can help people sort of hold their hands and help them through those little steps to the point when, you know, like now where
24:15 I am, like I'm taking much bigger leaps and strides. Yeah. But it's been the support of the coaches that sort of helped me get here.
24:24 Yeah. No, absolutely. Yeah, and I'm sure you're, you know, similar too. And do you work with coaches yourself? So I know you've had your writing coach.
24:35 Yeah. I do. Yeah. And I think I hadn't realized the benefit of coaching until I started doing the NLP and coaching myself and then starting my own business, you know, running a business is pretty challenging, so and I found there was a lot of changes to my own beliefs and habits that I had to make and
25:05 especially coming out of a corporate world and my corporate career it was very very fast paste and all about you know deliver deliver deliver and it was almost just a bit of a shift and so yet I use coaches myself and particularly when I'm in a place where I'm feeling negative And I'm like, right, I
25:30 need a bit of help to see, you know, to help me drill down into what it is here because like, you know, just as we're, as I'm saying, like those beliefs, we're just, um, don't even notice when they're holding us back.
25:44 Yeah. can we circle back to the sort of this concept of taking a pause? There are a lot of people that I know in my audience that do not take time for themselves.
26:00 They probably tell themselves that, you know, yeah, they don't have time to stop, to reflect, you know, and it's this concept around like busyness and everyone's so busy.
26:20 Do you have any thoughts on how we might help convince busy people that taking this time is really important? Yeah and you know that is something I hear a lot initially with clients in the workplace and one to one coach and clients.
26:39 I think the challenge that we all face is we're literally just drowning and overloaded with information, you know, from the emails, instant messages, the social media, and it's all on top of our workload.
26:54 And I think, like, you know, one of the greatest challenges in this era is getting the right things done at the right time and spending the right amount of time on them.
27:05 And, you know, if we're just under stress or a lot of pressure, are we really thinking in a way that's going to allow us to do that?
27:22 Are we getting a bit of perspective on what we're working on because we can just get so bombarded with everything?
27:30 The key to doing that is really about building the time to step back and take a power pause in your day because once you do, you might often find a better way, a more efficient way of doing something.
27:46 And it's often until, not until we actually stop and step back, that we realise just how much stress or pressure that we were under, you know, and if we're in a state of stress and anxiety, we're probably not in our most resourceful state.
28:02 They are literally blocking the creativity within us, so we need to be able to restore CAM and then reset and access a more positive resourceful state, you know.
28:19 So yeah, I think with those stories like in beliefs and to busy, I don't have the time and find we need to be mindful of those because their beliefs that are likely not helping us, potentially hindering us from being calm and resourceful states and doing our best work.
28:45 And I think the first step is just really to notice them. And when we do notice them, what is the harm and stepping back for five minutes anyway because once you do it actually feels pretty good it feels nice just to achieve calm and reconnect with yourself just step back from all the stress just take
29:08 the power pause because you've got really nothing to lose just by taking five minutes it's so nice and calming. So just being mindful of those stories because often you might be saying, oh I don't even have time to take a break, I'll just work through and then nine times at 10 you can get to lunch time
29:31 and you're like, oh don't have time for lunch, you know, something comes up and then you work through lunch and then before you know it, you've gone the whole day potentially that without taking any breaks, grabbing a sandwich at your desk, and when we're in a state of stress for a long period of time
29:49 , it's much, much harder to be able to wind back down and restore cam. And personally, that was something I found.
29:58 I would then get to the end of the day and find it very hard to wind down and get to sleep, like my mind is still in a state of stress and on overdrive or even if I did get to sleep, perhaps one of my kids would be up during the night or I would get woken during the night and I don't know if it was just
30:18 all the cortisol, the stress hormone build up. So yeah, it was almost like a toxic mix of like stress, adrenaline, caffeine to get through the day on a lack of sleep to repeat the same pattern at night and you know sometimes I was like gonna you know I'd only had a couple hours sleep and then I'd be
30:43 lying awake thinking how am I gonna get through the day. The first step was just restoring Cam because that almost like short circuited the whole stress response and was then able to, you know, it's like short circuit in that stretch is once in restoring cam throughout the day, my sleep then started
31:06 to improve as well and just found a new way of being really. Sleep is so important. Like I think it's so, I think in the past it's probably been underrated.
31:23 I think that's changing now. Now I don't know if that's because of like the algorithm on social media and so I I probably see a lot of content that's similar to this sort of stuff that I like so whether it whether it genuinely is a shift but I do I sense there's a bit of a shift and people are like starting
31:45 to really prioritize their health and their well-being and and sleep is such a big like foundational pillar to that isn't it?
31:54 Yes and I think it's a big part of that are are, you know, these stories and beliefs that we hold about sleep as well, because sometimes they can hinder us actually getting the sleep that we need to say for sleeps to start like sleep disturbances are a reality of life.
32:14 And it's how we then get back to sleep after them. And sometimes we can have stories and beliefs that are hindering us actually getting the sleep that we need.
32:25 And that's something that falls under the emotional well-being pillar of my four-pillar approach. A big part of that, you know, is sleep, because, you know, I think everyone can probably relate to those mornings when I've had a really good sleep, we just feel our best.
32:48 It's really easy to access those resourceful states and those positive belief systems all just comes easily. In contrast, if we've had a night where we've not had enough sleep, like we can feel pretty negative and we then have the challenge, how do we get ourselves back into that resource state and feeling
33:10 good again? So you mentioned their story, Alison, your pillar, the four pillar approach. Can you tell me just a little bit more about that?
33:24 Yes, sure. So the four pillars are mind, emotional wellbeing and productivity and how we relate into others. And the mind pillar, it's really about strengthening and exercising the mind to enable us to use the mind to the best of our ability to achieve our desired outcomes and, you know, access these
33:50 resourceful states and positive belief systems. And emotional well-being is all about our tools, it's tools to deal with stress, generate positive emotions, and includes like our sleep and energy levels, and then productivity is about having effective goals and habits and behaviors, and then relating
34:15 to others is just about effective relationships in our workplace, in our home and time for ourselves. but it's like a multi-faceted approach because they all work together and something I look at with my clients is you know where are you on each of doors for pillars which is the main one that you feel
34:37 is letting you down at the minute and starting with that one first and then you know building on the others.
34:48 But there tends to be, like, we're not all perfect. There tends to always be one at any one point in time that we're just, you know, as perhaps letting us down a bit and needs a bit of work.
35:00 So, yeah, interesting. Love that. Nice. Okay. I guess it's like, you know, if you're feeling really stressed and don't have tools to deal with stress, you're probably not being your most productive, and if you don't have good habits and behaviors around productivity or probably more like this to be stressed
35:20 and not using your mind to the best your ability. So it's like all interlinked, you're probably getting asleep. So it's like, you know, it's like you need to them all to work and harmony.
35:34 Yeah, love that really powerful. Is there anything What else, Alison, that you would like to share with the listeners? Yeah, I think the main message probably is just, you know, listen to how you feel about things, and connect with these emotions.
35:57 There's such powerful guides, you know, perhaps we're not on the right path, perhaps there's something that we need to change, listen to how you feel, because, you know, or whatever we actually truly desire, we have the power to achieve that outcome and use our mind to achieve it.
36:19 I just think it's absolutely fascinating. Like we've got such unlimited power. If we can just learn how to tap into it.
36:32 And you know, it's just, you know, what are you focusing on because whatever you're focusing on that's where you're dedicating your energy and you know we have feelings and emotions off the back of that and if we're focused on the problem versus a solution you're focusing on the solution and you know
36:57 we're probably more likely to be accessing you know our creativity, belief systems to help us achieve that solution and feeling good rather than just staying stuck focusing on a problem.
37:14 So yeah there's always another way, there's always a path back to feeling good. Just give yourself that five minutes, give yourself the power port, connect with how you feel because that can be in itself just drowned out in such a busy world, connect with how you feel, and then from a place of calm,
37:35 you can then start to appraise your life and ask yourself the questions, what is it I want, what is it I really want, but I guess you need to be in a place of calm to be able to, you know, appraise your life.
37:49 So yeah, that's yeah. That is that's a really powerful reframe just thinking about the problem versus the solution yeah because there are a lot of people that do get so hung up on the problem and and I notice it I don't know again probably because of the circles that I socialize in and the content I
38:18 see online I think I am probably more surrounded by people that have this sort of more solution focused mindset but when I've been out and about and like say I'm maybe on public transport or you know so out in the general public.
38:38 The amount of people that you do hear complaining and it's all very stuck in the problem. So yeah that's a really great reframe.
38:49 And just think about your energy of your stuck in the problem. I'm all about like you know whether were, you know, negative energy or positive energy because the energy, I'm going about spiritual here, the energy you put out into the universe, the energy you get back.
39:08 And I firmly believe this because once I started to feel more positive and, you know, find this new way of life you know things start to happen and unlock and it all just feels a bit easier and I think a big part of that was you know me and the energy I was putting out so yes so powerful yeah it really
39:36 really is okay and where Alison where can our the on your time listeners find you online and so they can look up your work and your book and so on.
39:50 Sure, so I'm Alison Ruddy on LinkedIn and Instagram. I'm also on TikTok. I'm on Instagram. Yeah, and you can also find me at www.alisonruddy.com and there's some articles, previews, verses on there and PowerPause is available on Amazon.
40:14 Fantastic and I will make sure that in the show notes there'll be various likes and different things to to reach you.
40:24 Thanks so much. I know. I've loved it. Really enjoyed being on your podcast. Thank you. You are most welcome. What a great conversation.
40:33 Thanks for joining me. Likewise, thank you. Thank you for joining me on another episode of Own Your Time. If you enjoyed today's episode don't forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review if you can.
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